On November 11, 2020, I posted an article on Henry Seeley, “pastor” at The Belonging Co. In that article, I reviewed a sermon that Henry gave on December 22, 2019. In that sermon, he made reference to a “Pastor Alex.” “Pastor Alex” would be Henry’s wife, Alex Seeley. He made mention of the message she gave the prior week. Moreover, when preaching himself during his sermon (something he does a lot), he made the claim that his wife has got “the revelation from heaven.” While he did not necessarily say that quote in the context of the message she gave, he did attach God’s name to their church when he stated the following at the 18:47 mark of the sermon per this website:
All week I’ve been getting texts from people. Emails from people. Messages from people. After Pastor Alex’s message last week about us giving and being part of this miracle that God is doing here in our church with this building and people that are so excited. I mean, that’s a joy that doesn’t make sense to the world. You’re excited to give away? You’re excited to be gen, you’re excited to give your money? What kind of craziness is this? It’s because we realized we’ve received. We’ve joyfully received. And so we can joyfully give. We can joyfully be generous. Because guess what? It actually opens the door for more joy. More generosity. More joy. More generosity. More joy. More generosity. You see there is good news, there is great joy available to you today.
Now, it’s important to understand that God’s Word forbids women pastors (1 Timothy 2:9-3:13 and 1 Corinthians 14; Pastor Chris Rosebrough of Pirate Christian Radio also offers insight from his review on Jory Micah, someone who doesn’t believe women are to be kept silent in the church). When consulting the text of 1 Timothy 2:9-15, pay attention to the fact that the very next chapter goes right into the qualifications of a pastor. How can a woman be a husband of one wife (1 Timothy 3:2)? With this flagrant rebellion happening, to attach God’s name to what is happening at The Belonging Co is absolute blasphemy.
Consider the following two paragraphs from GotQuestions.org’s article on women pastors (said article being the first hyperlink in this paragraph):
Many women excel in gifts of hospitality, mercy, teaching, evangelism, and helping/serving. Much of the ministry of the local church depends on women. Women in the church are not restricted from public praying or prophesying (1 Corinthians 11:5), only from having spiritual teaching authority over men. The Bible nowhere restricts women from exercising the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12). Women, just as much as men, are called to minister to others, to demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22–23), and to proclaim the gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18–20; Acts 1:8; 1 Peter 3:15).
God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual teaching authority in the church. This is not because men are necessarily better teachers or because women are inferior or less intelligent (which is not the case). It is simply the way God designed the church to function. Men are to set the example in spiritual leadership—in their lives and through their words. Women are to take a less authoritative role. Women are encouraged to teach other women (Titus 2:3–5). The Bible also does not restrict women from teaching children. The only activity women are restricted from is teaching or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors to men. This does not make women less important, by any means, but rather gives them a ministry focus more in agreement with God’s plan and His gifting of them.
Women definitely play a vital role in ministry. However, being pastors goes beyond the role given to them in Scripture. This is actually a reason why I’ll never do a “profile” post on a female pastor. God’s Word forbids it, and that’s reason enough to dismiss any female pastor on the spot, full stop. After all, it’s an abomination.
On October 31, 2020, I posted a book review I did on David Cloud’s The Pentecostal-Charismatic Movement: The History and Error. In that book (which is an important work), Cloud gave eight reasons for why the restriction on women preachers was not limited to the first century. They are as follows (pp. 316-318):
First, Paul’s letter to Corinth, in which he spoke of women being in subjection to men, was for all Christians, not just those in Corinth (“with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours,” 1 Cor. 1:2). It is clear that Paul’s instructions were not intended merely for some peculiar situation at Corinth.
Second, Paul said that his instructions in 1 Corinthians 14 are the commandments of the Lord (v. 37). As such, they must be obeyed by all Christians and by every church. These were not Paul’s own opinions and prejudices. And one of these commandments was this: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law” (1 Cor. 14:34).
Third, the apostle said that the instructions of 1 Corinthians 14 are a test of spirituality. (1 Cor. 14:37). Those who reject the teaching of 1 Corinthians 14 concerning a woman’s role in the church prove that they are unspiritual.
Fourth, 1 Timothy, which contains the rule that the woman cannot teach nor usurp authority over the man, was written to teach the proper order for churches in general. “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth” (1 Tim. 3:15).
Fifth, the things contained in 1 Timothy are to be kept until Jesus returns (1 Tim. 6:13-14).
Sixth, in giving the instructions about women in the church, the Holy Spirit referred to the original order of creation — Adam was created first, then Eve (1 Tim. 2:13-14). The man was created to lead and the woman was created as his helper. Since the order of creation has not changed and since it does not change in any culture or century, we know that the instructions about the woman’s role in the church still apply to us today.
Seventh, Paul referred to the fall to support his teaching on the Christian woman’s subjection to the man (1 Tim. 2:14). Again, this shows that the apostle’s teaching about the woman transcends any one culture or time.
Eighth, Paul referred to human nature to support his teaching regarding women (“And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression,” 1 Tim. 2:14). The woman has a different makeup than the man. She was designed for a different role in life — that of a wife and mother. Her emotional, psychological, and rational makeup is geared perfectly for this, but she was not designed for leadership. In the Garden of Eden, the devil deceived her. Adam also sinned, but he was not deceived. Eve allowed herself to be thrust into a position of decision-making she was not supposed to occupy. It is no coincidence that women have been responsible for starting many of the false Christian movements and have played key roles in Spiritism, new age, mind science Colts, Seventh-day Adventism, and such. Human nature has not changed and neither has God’s restrictions against women preachers.
The restriction on women preachers is and always will be in effect. Henry Seeley and Alex Seeley need to repent and be forgiven for endorsing the unbiblical concept of women pastors.
So you might be asking, “So Clint, why do a sermon review on Alex Seeley at all in light of the information you just presented?” That’s a fair question.
First, I want to experiment with doing sermon reviews as stand-alone articles. I have kicked around the idea of doing a podcast for sermon reviews, but podcasting seems to be beyond my artistic/creative expertise at this time (maybe for good). Second, doing sermon reviews in article format helps transcribe the spoken word in a way that gets stuff on paper. Third, for months I’ve contemplated testing Henry’s claim that his wife gets the revelation from heaven. Granted, one can easily dismiss the claim via her being a female pastor. Nevertheless, reviewing the sermon potentially gives more strength to dismissing Henry’s claim. Therefore, I review Alex Seeley’s sermon from December 15, 2019. It’s titled, “Your Harvest Is Determined By The Seed You Sow.” The Apple podcast of this sermon is about 18 seconds slower compared to the linked video. All minute/second marks I use go off the podcast
Already, I have an issue with the sermon’s title. Think about it. This sounds like it’ll be a “how-to” sermon. Moreover, it sounds like it will be anthropocentric (man-centered) rather than Christo-centric (Christ-centered). Believe it or not, this is hardly the worst sermon title I have heard. I’ve seen sermons titled, “Pull Your Head Out Of Your App“, “Go Elf Yourself“, and “Wear Your Own Pants” (among others). Obviously, those are way more crass. Seeley’s sermon title reeks of “all law, no Gospel.” Moreover, I am expecting her to twist the Scriptures regarding money. Will I be wrong? Let’s find out.
It should be noted that Alex has no problem referring to herself as a pastor. This photo proves it. I have already explained how God’s Word forbids women pastors.
About a minute into the sermon, she begins to preach herself. Specifically, she talks about how Jesus found her. She then transitions into talking about the seats the people are sitting on in the building. She says she wants the people to see the seats as seed “that reaps a harvest of souls.” She does admit that she doesn’t believe she has “preached” on this particular topic of “seed.” She does state at 5:15, “And your harvest, church, your personal harvest in your life is determined by the seed that you sow. It’s actually all about the seed that you sow.”
At 5:31, she finally makes mention of a biblical text. Specifically, she refers to 1 Kings 17:9. However, she does not read the text. She instead talks about it without reading it. It’s a descriptive text, not a prescriptive one. At 6:57, she says something worth transcribing (6:57-7:20):
God never asks you to take from you. He asks because He wants to partner with you to put your seed to reap a harvest. And as she sowed, that last morsel, she reaped a harvest that took care of her and her family and she was never without.
No text says God wants to partner with me to put my seed to reap a harvest. The “she” Alex refers to in 1 Kings 17:9 is the widow. I find it interesting she ripped the verse out of context. Had she read the verse in context, she would not have been able to say what she said. In fact, she’s not the first person to twist this text the way she did it. Narcissistic bully James MacDonald (12/5/2011 episode) and heretic Levi Lusko have both twisted 1 Kings 17 in basically the same way (MacDonald twisted it into a tithing text). For context, I show 1 Kings 17:1-16 (NKJV):
17 And Elijah the Tishbite, of the inhabitants of Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, except at my word.”
2 Then the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 3 “Get away from here and turn eastward, and hide by the Brook Cherith, which flows into the Jordan. 4 And it will be that you shall drink from the brook, and I have commanded the ravens to feed you there.”
5 So he went and did according to the word of the Lord, for he went and stayed by the Brook Cherith, which flows into the Jordan. 6 The ravens brought him bread and meat in the morning, and bread and meat in the evening; and he drank from the brook. 7 And it happened after a while that the brook dried up, because there had been no rain in the land.
8 Then the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 9 “Arise, go to Zarephath, which belongs to Sidon, and dwell there. See, I have commanded a widow there to provide for you.” 10 So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, indeed a widow was there gathering sticks. And he called to her and said, “Please bring me a little water in a cup, that I may drink.” 11 And as she was going to get it, he called to her and said, “Please bring me a morsel of bread in your hand.”
12 So she said, “As the Lord your God lives, I do not have bread, only a handful of flour in a bin, and a little oil in a jar; and see, I am gathering a couple of sticks that I may go in and prepare it for myself and my son, that we may eat it, and die.”
13 And Elijah said to her, “Do not fear; go and do as you have said, but make me a small cake from it first, and bring it to me; and afterward make some for yourself and your son. 14 For thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘The bin of flour shall not be used up, nor shall the jar of oil run dry, until the day the Lord sends rain on the earth.’ ”
15 So she went away and did according to the word of Elijah; and she and he and her household ate for many days. 16 The bin of flour was not used up, nor did the jar of oil run dry, according to the word of the Lord which He spoke by Elijah.
The LORD commanded the widow to provide. She believed the LORD’s words as spoken by the prophet Elijah. Did Alex emphasize the word of the LORD? Not at all. Instead, she keyed in on the widow’s sowing. However, the widow’s sowing didn’t reap the harvest. It was at the LORD’s word that her flour bin and jar of oil remained intact. Seeley has twisted God’s Word here.
At 7:25, Seeley says this:
All week I felt God say, “Alex you need to teach the people of The Belonging Company the law of seed and harvest.”
I don’t believe that was God talking to Alex there. Wanna know why? She twisted God’s Word with 1 Kings 17:9. Also, where is the law of seed and harvest taught in Scripture? Which of the early church fathers taught this law? Why should I believe Alex gets direct revelation from God when A) she is a woman pastor (something God forbids), and B) she twisted God’s Word with 1 Kings 17:9?
It is important to understand that God’s Word is all true, all powerful and without error (2 Timothy 3:16-17; Numbers 23:19; Malachi 3:6; Psalm 12:6; John 17:17; Titus 1:2). Furthermore, it equips the believer for every good work, for it is sufficient for all things pertaining to life and godliness (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:3-9). Scripture is sufficient. Scripture alone is one’s authority for the faith and practice of a Christian. Hebrews 1:1-2 (NASB) states:
God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.Hebrews 1:1-2 (NASB)
Who is “His Son”? That would be Jesus Christ, God in human flesh (John 1:1-14). Jesus is the Word incarnate. Moreover, He has already revealed all the Christian needs to know as it pertains to life and godliness. We do not need claims of direct revelation from God. Such a thing denies the sufficiency of Scripture. It has already been established that Alex Seeley denies Scripture’s authority with her flagrantly rebelling against God’s Word via pastoring. Her claims of direct revelation show she also denies Scripture’s sufficiency.
At 9:40, Seeley says another thing worth refuting (9:40-10:06):
Money is talked about more than anything else in the Bible, in the, in the, in the New Testament. Did you know it’s one in every six verses, uh, there is a talk on money, finances, stewardship. Jesus talked about it more than faith. The reason why He wanted to talk to us about this because do you realize that money is the thing that every single person needs on a daily basis?
This is an absolute myth. For some reason, this myth has gotten much traction in the last decade (likely earlier than that). Pastor Chris Rosebrough of Fighting For The Faith wrote a “Captain’s Log” article to refute the myth that Jesus talked more about money than heaven and hell combined. In that article is the relevant portion of the sermon review he did on plagiarizer and false teacher Kory Cassell. I took notes on this.
Jesus gave, depending on who you refer to, 39-40 parables. Hindson & Borland’s commentary gives 40 (pp. 128-129, showing Matthew has all 40 with none in John). In the sermon review Rosebrough did on Cassell (1:02:43 mark), Rosebrough listed 39 parables (he considers the passage of the Good Shepherd in John 10 as a parable). Page 2038 of the NKJV MacArthur Study Bible lists 39 parables (none in John). Not on that list is the parable of the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31-46). Therefore, I go off of MacArthur’s list and I add the parable of the sheep and the goats. Before I list all 40, I have to show the reason why Jesus taught in parables. This actually blends in with the first parable I list, the Parable of the Sower. This would be Matthew 13:1-23 (NKJV):
The Parable of the Sower
13 On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. 2 And great multitudes were gathered together to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”
The Purpose of Parables
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:
‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’
16 But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; 17 for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
The Parable of the Sower Explained
18 “Therefore hear the parable of the sower: 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it,then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. 20 But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
In verses 11-17, Jesus gives the reason why He speaks in parables. It has nothing to do with money, finances or stewardship. He also did not speak in parables either to relate to people or because He enjoyed telling stories. Jesus’ reason for speaking in parables has everything to do with who has been given eyes to see and ears to hear the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. The “seed” referred to in verse 19 is the Word of God (see Luke 8:4-15). The wicked one is the devil. There are four different types of people in the parable who receive the Word of God. Why is this? Because Jesus said so. Jesus is the one who gives the meaning of the parables, not us. We can see from Jesus’ explanation that this first parable is not about money; it is about the Word of God and how people receive it.
Here are the 40 parables. I already went through one (without showing the Mark or Luke passages). I put that one on the top of the list. I show all 40. I then list one or more of the Scripture references (coming from Matthew, Mark and/or Luke) for each parable.
- Parable of the Sower (Matthew 13:3-23; Mark 4:2-20; Luke 8:4-15)
- Lamp Under a Basket (Matthew 5:14-16; Mark 4:21-22; Luke 8:16-17, 11:33-36)
- A Wise Man Builds On Rock And a Foolish Man Builds On Sand (Matthew 7:24-27; Luke 6:47-49)
- Unshrunk (New) Cloth on an Old Garment (Matthew 9:16; Mark 2:21; Luke 5:36)
- New Wine In Old Wineskins (Matthew 9:17; Mark 2;22; Luke 5:37-38)
- The Tares [Weeds] (Matthew 13:24-30)
- The Mustard Seed (Matthew 13:31-32; Mark 4:30-32; Luke 13:18-19)
- The Leaven (Matthew 13:33; Luke 13:20-21)
- The Hidden Treasure (Matthew 13:44)
- The Pearl of Great Price (Matthew 13:45-46)
- The Dragnet (Matthew 13:47-50)
- The Lost Sheep (Matthew 18:12-14; Luke 15:3-7)
- The Unforgiving Servant (Matthew 18:23-35)
- The Workers In The Vineyard (Matthew 20:1-16)
- The Two Sons (Matthew 21:28-32)
- The Wicked Vinedressers (Matthew 21:33-45; Mark 12:1-12; Luke 20:9-19)
- The Wedding Feast (Matthew 22:2-14)
- The Fig Tree (Matthew 24:32-44; Mark 13:28-32; Luke 21:29-33)
- The Wise And Foolish Virgins (Matthew 25:1-13)
- The Talents (Matthew 25:14-30)
- Sheep and the Goats (Matthew 25:31-46)
- The Growing Seed (Mark 4:26-29)
- The Absent Householder (Mark 13:33-37)
- The Creditor and Two Debtors (Luke 7:41-43)
- The Good Samaritan (Luke 10:30-37)
- A Friend In Need (Luke 11:5-13)
- The Rich Fool (Luke 12:16-21)
- The Watchful Servants (Luke 12:35-40)
- The Faithful Servant And The Evil Servant (Luke 12:42-48)
- The Barren Fig Tree (Luke 13:6-9)
- The Great Supper (Luke 14:16-24)
- Building A Tower And A King Making War (Luke 14:25-35)
- The Lost Coin (Luke 15:8-10)
- The Lost Son (Luke 15:11-32)
- The Unjust Steward (Luke 16:1-13)
- The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)
- Unprofitable Servants (Luke 17:7-10)
- The Persistent Widow (Luke 18:1-8)
- The Pharisee and the Tax Collector (Luke 18:9-14)
- The Minas [Pounds] (Luke 19:11-27)
Buckle up; we got a marathon of parables to read. We already know that Seeley’s claim that “Money is talked about more than anything else in the Bible…in the New Testament” is false based on the work Rosebrough did to refute Cassell back in 2014. However, Rosebrough did not read every single parable in his refutation (and I only state that as a matter of fact). This article does show every parable to show the reader what every parable says.
As an aside, if I can lump multiple parables together, I’ll state “Parables X-Y” (including text not in the parables, if necessary). Otherwise, expect the full parable name after each listed parable number. You can always refer above to find the parable name. All citations come from the NKJV.
PARABLE TWO: Lamp Under A Basket
14 “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men,that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.Matthew 5:14-16 (NKJV)
21 Also He said to them, “Is a lamp brought to be put under a basket or under a bed? Is it not to be set on a lampstand? 22For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light.Mark 4:21-22 (NKJV)
16 “No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a vessel or puts it under a bed, but sets it on a lampstand, that those who enter may see the light. 17 For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.Luke 8:16-17 (NKJV)
33 “No one, when he has lit a lamp, puts it in a secret place or under a basket, but on a lampstand, that those who come in may see the light. 34 The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore, when your eye is good, your whole body also is full of light. But when your eye is bad, your body also is full of darkness. 35 Therefore take heed that the light which is in you is not darkness. 36 If then your whole body is full of light, having no part dark, the whole body will be full of light, as when the bright shining of a lamp gives you light.”Luke 11:33-36 (NKJV)
Is Jesus talking about money in any of the Matthew, Mark or Luke accounts of this parable? No. There is also nothing about finances or stewardship in the parable either.
PARABLE THREE: A Wise Man Builds On Rock And a Foolish Man Builds On Sand
24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”Matthew 7:24-27
47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”Luke 6:47-49
The “therefore” in the Matthew text is not there to point back to words about money. As you can see, the Luke account of the third parable makes no mention of money either.
16 No one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; for the patch pulls away from the garment, and the tear is made worse. 17 Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved.”Matthew 9:16-17
21 No one sews a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; or else the new piece pulls away from the old, and the tear is made worse. 22 And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine bursts the wineskins, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins.”Mark 2:21-22
36 Then He spoke a parable to them: “No one puts a piece from a new garment on an old one; otherwise the new makes a tear, and also the piece that was taken out of the new does not match the old. 37 And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined.38 But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved.Luke 5:36-38
We got two parables in each of the above passages. They pertain to new garments (or cloth) on old garments and new wineskins on old wineskins. There is nothing about money in these two parables.
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them.30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”
31 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field, 32 which indeed is the least of all the seeds; but when it is grown it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.”
33 Another parable He spoke to them: “The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened.”
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them, 35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying:
“I will open My mouth in parables;
I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world.”
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”
37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
44 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.
45 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls, 46 who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it.
47 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, 48 which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”Matthew 13:24-50
The six parables in this passage include the Tares (24-30), Mustard Seed (31-32), Leaven (33), Hidden Treasure (44), Pearl of Great Price (45-46), and Dragnet (47-50). All six really pertain to the kingdom of heaven. None pertain to money. Christ is the man and the merchant in the Parables of the Hidden Treasure and Pearl of Great Price, respectively.
Here is the Luke account of the Mustard Seed and Leaven:
18 Then He said, “What is the kingdom of God like? And to what shall I compare it? 19 It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and put in his garden; and it grew and became a large tree, and the birds of the air nested in its branches.”
20 And again He said, “To what shall I liken the kingdom of God? 21 It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened.”Luke 13:18-21
The Luke account supports the fact that those two parables pertain to the Kingdom of God.
So far, after eleven parables, we have found zero pertaining to money.
12 “What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?13 And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.
15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
18 “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”
21 Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?”
22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23 Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made.26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’27 Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
28 “But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ 29 So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 30 And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done.32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
35 “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.”Matthew 18:12-35
Here, we have the Parable of the Lost Sheep (12-14) and the Unforgiving Servant (23-35). There is nothing about money here. Instead, we see lost sheep and forgiveness. Let’s see what the Luke account of the Lost Sheep says:
3 So He spoke this parable to them, saying:
4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing.6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.Luke 15:3-7
The Luke account expands a bit on the Matthew account by including the word “repentance.” That seems to be a swear word for the Seeley clan, for I hardly (if ever) hear them use that word. That’s sad. What’s sadder is that Alex Seeley’s claim gets worse with each parable.
PARABLE FOURTEEN: The Workers In The Vineyard
20 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2 Now when he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4 and said to them, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went.5 Again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did likewise. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing idle, and said to them, ‘Why have you been standing here idle all day?’ 7 They said to him, ‘Because no one hired us.’ He said to them, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right you will receive.’
8 “So when evening had come, the owner of the vineyard said to his steward, ‘Call the laborers and give them their wages, beginning with the last to the first.’ 9 And when those came who were hired about the eleventh hour, they each received a denarius. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they would receive more; and they likewise received each a denarius. 11 And when they had received it,they complained against the landowner, 12 saying, ‘These last men have worked only one hour, and you made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the heat of the day.’ 13 But he answered one of them and said, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14 Take what is yours and go your way. I wish to give to this last man the same as to you. 15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with my own things? Or is your eye evil because I am good?’ 16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.”Matthew 20:1-16
Here is another parable on the kingdom of heaven. While there is “wage” talk in this parable, it has nothing to do with money. Rather, it has to do with salvation.
28 “But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go, work today in my vineyard.’ 29 He answered and said, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he regretted it and went. 30 Then he came to the second and said likewise. And he answered and said, ‘I go, sir,’ but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did the will of his father?”
They said to Him, “The first.”
Jesus said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you.32 For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him; but tax collectors and harlots believed him; and when you saw it, you did not afterward relent and believe him.
33 “Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.
40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”
41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”
42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?
43 “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”
45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they perceived that He was speaking of them.Matthew 21:28-45
This passage in Matthew has the Parable of the Two Sons (28-32) and the Parable of the Wicked Vinedressers (33-45). Neither talks about money.
Here are the Mark and Luke accounts of the Parable of the Wicked Vinedressers:
12 Then He began to speak to them in parables: “A man planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a place for the wine vat and built a tower. And he leased it tovinedressers and went into a far country. 2 Now at vintage-time he sent a servant to the vinedressers, that he might receive some of the fruit of the vineyard from the vinedressers. 3 And they took him and beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 4 Again he sent them another servant, and at him they threw stones, wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully treated. 5 And again he sent another, and him they killed; and many others, beating some and killing some. 6 Therefore still having one son, his beloved, he also sent him to them last, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 7 But those vinedressers said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’ 8 So they took him and killed him and cast him out of the vineyard.
9 “Therefore what will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and destroy the vinedressers, and give the vineyard to others. 10 Have you not even read this Scripture:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
11 This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?”
12 And they sought to lay hands on Him, but feared the multitude, for they knew He had spoken the parable against them. So they left Him and went away.Mark 12:1-12
9 Then He began to tell the people this parable: “A certain man planted a vineyard, leased it to vinedressers, and went into a far country for a long time. 10 Now at vintage-time he sent a servant to the vinedressers, that they might give him some of the fruit of the vineyard. But the vinedressers beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 11 Again he sent another servant; and they beat him also, treated him shamefully, and sent him away empty-handed. 12 And again he sent a third; and they wounded him also and cast him out.
13 “Then the owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son. Probably they will respect him when they see him.’ 14 But when the vinedressers saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours.’ 15 So they cast him out of the vineyard and killed him. Therefore what will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16 He will come and destroy those vinedressers and give the vineyard to others.”
And when they heard it they said, “Certainly not!”
17 Then He looked at them and said, “What then is this that is written:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone’?
18 Whoever falls on that stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”
19 And the chief priests and the scribes that very hour sought to lay hands on Him, but they feared the people—for they knew He had spoken this parable against them.Luke 20:9-19
We are now sixteen parables in, and there is nothing on money here.
PARABLE SEVENTEEN: The Wedding Feast
2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who arranged a marriage for his son, 3 and sent out his servants to call those who were invited to the wedding; and they were not willing to come. 4 Again, he sent out other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who are invited, “See, I have prepared my dinner;my oxen and fatted cattle are killed, and all things are ready. Come to the wedding.” ’ 5 But they made light of it and went their ways, one to his own farm, another to his business.6 And the rest seized his servants, treated them spitefully, and killed them. 7 But when the king heard about it, he was furious. And he sent out his armies, destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go into the highways, and as many as you find, invite to the wedding.’ 10 So those servants went out into the highways and gathered together all whom they found, both bad and good. And the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. 12 So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”Matthew 22:2-14
This parable obviously has nothing to do with money. Instead, it is about the kingdom of heaven. It’s a parable of judgment.
PARABLE EIGHTEEN: The Fig Tree
32 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors! 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.Matthew 24:32-44
28 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender, and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 29 So you also, when you see these things happening, know that it is near—at the doors!30 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
32 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.Mark 13:28-32
29 Then He spoke to them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. 30 When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near. 31 So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. 32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.Luke 21:29-33
There is nothing about money here in the Parable of the Fig Tree.
25 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.
6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroomis coming; go out to meet him!’ 7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’
13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.
14 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. 15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey. 16 Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents. 17 And likewise he who had received two gained two more also. 18 But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord’s money. 19 After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.
20 “So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’21 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’ 22 He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’ 23 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’
24 “Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed.25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’
26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.28 So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
29 ‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”Matthew 25:1-46
Here we got three parables. They are the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins (1-13), the Parable of the Talents (14-30), and the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats (31-46). All are about judgment. None are about money.
PARABLE TWENTY-TWO: The Growing Seed
26 And He said, “The kingdom of God is as if a man should scatter seed on the ground, 27 and should sleep by night and rise by day, and the seed should sprout and grow, he himself does not know how. 28 For the earth yields crops by itself: first the blade, then the head, after that the full grain in the head. 29 But when the grain ripens, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come.”Mark 4:26-29
This parable is about the kingdom of God, not money. The word “seed” in this passage is not referring to money.
PARABLE TWENTY-THREE: The Absent Householder
33 Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is. 34 It is like a man going to a far country, who left his house and gave authority to his servants, and to each his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to watch. 35 Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming—in the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or in the morning— 36 lest, coming suddenly, he find you sleeping. 37 And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch!”Mark 13:33-37
This parable is about watchfulness, not money.
PARABLE TWENTY-FOUR: The Creditor and Two Debtors
41 “There was a certain creditor who had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 And when they had nothing with which to repay, he freely forgave them both. Tell Me, therefore, which of them will love him more?”
43 Simon answered and said, “I suppose the one whom he forgave more.”
And He said to him, “You have rightly judged.”Luke 7:41-43
This parable is about forgiveness of sins, not money.
PARABLE TWENTY-FIVE: The Good Samaritan
25 And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?”
27 So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
28 And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.”
29 But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
30 Then Jesus answered and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31 Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32 Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35 On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’ 36 So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?”
37 And he said, “He who showed mercy on him.”
Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”Luke 10:25-37
While MacArthur’s NKJV Bible states Luke 10:30-37, I added verses 25-29 for more context. As you can see, the parable is about mercy and loving one’s neighbor. It is not about money.
PARABLE TWENTY-SIX: A Friend In Need
5 And He said to them, “Which of you shall have a friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves; 6 for a friend of mine has come to me on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give to you’? 8 I say to you, though he will not rise and give to him because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will rise and give him as many as he needs.
9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11 If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish?12 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”Luke 11:5-13
The parable pertains to persistence and giving good gifts. It doesn’t mention money verbatim.
16 Then He spoke a parable to them, saying: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded plentifully. 17 And he thought within himself, saying, ‘What shall I do, since I have no room to store my crops?’ 18 So he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build greater, and there I will store all my crops and my goods. 19 And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years; take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry.” ’ 20 But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul will be required of you; then whose will those things be which you have provided?’
21 “So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.”
22 Then He said to His disciples, “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; nor about the body, what you will put on. 23 Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing. 24 Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap, which have neither storehouse nor barn; and God feeds them. Of how much more value are you than the birds? 25 And which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature? 26 If you then are not able to do the least, why are you anxious for the rest? 27 Consider the lilies, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; and yet I say to you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 28 If then God so clothes the grass, which today is in the field and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, how much more will He clothe you, O you of little faith?
29 “And do not seek what you should eat or what you should drink, nor have an anxious mind. 30 For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows that you need these things. 31 But seek the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added to you.
32 “Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell what you have and give alms; provide yourselves money bags which do not grow old, a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches nor moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
35 “Let your waist be girded and your lamps burning; 36 and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding, that when he comes and knocks they may open to him immediately. 37 Blessed are those servants whom the master, when he comes, will find watching. Assuredly, I say to you that he will gird himself and have them sit down to eat, and will come and serve them.38 And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.40 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”
41 Then Peter said to Him, “Lord, do You speak this parable only to us, or to all people?”
42 And the Lord said, “Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of food in due season?43 Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. 44 Truly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all that he has. 45 But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, 46 the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47 And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.Luke 12:16-48
In this passage, we see the Parable of the Rich Fool (16-21), the Parable of the Watchful Servants (35-40), and the Parable of the Faithful Servant and the Evil Servant (42-48). The first parable does in a sense talk about money management, but it deals with idolatry more than anything. Nevertheless, we can give Seeley this one. However, notice that it took twenty-seven parables before we finally came across one about money. So far, she is 1 of 27.
The next two are connected to when Christ returns. Needless to say, money is not the main thing in those two passages.
PARABLE THIRTY: The Barren Fig Tree
6 He also spoke this parable: “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none. 7 Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, ‘Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?’ 8 But he answered and said to him, ‘Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it. 9 And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.’ ”Luke 13:6-9
This parable pertains to fruitfulness or lack thereof, not money.
16 Then He said to him, “A certain man gave a great supper and invited many, 17 and sent his servant at supper time to say to those who were invited, ‘Come, for all things are now ready.’ 18 But they all with one accord began to make excuses. The first said to him, ‘I have bought a piece of ground, and I must go and see it. I ask you to have me excused.’ 19 And another said, ‘I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I am going to test them. I ask you to have me excused.’ 20 Still another said, ‘I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.’ 21 So that servant came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, ‘Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in here the poor and the maimed and the lame and the blind.’ 22 And the servant said, ‘Master, it is done as you commanded, and still there is room.’ 23 Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 24 For I say to you that none of those men who were invited shall taste my supper.’ ”
25 Now great multitudes went with Him. And He turned and said to them, 26 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.27 And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. 28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it— 29 lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, 30 saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish’? 31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? 32 Or else, while the other is still a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks conditions of peace. 33 So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.
34 “Salt is good; but if the salt has lost its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? 35 It is neither fit for the land nor for the dunghill, but men throw it out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”Luke 14:16-35
This passage has the Parable of the Great Supper (16-24) and the Parable of Building a Tower and a King Making War (25-35). Neither pertain to money. The second one pertains to the cost of discipleship.
8 “Or what woman, having ten silver coins, if she loses one coin, does not light a lamp, sweep the house, and search carefully until she finds it? 9 And when she has found it, she calls her friends and neighbors together, saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the piece which I lost!’ 10 Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
11 Then He said: “A certain man had two sons. 12 And the younger of them said to his father, ‘Father, give me the portion of goods that falls to me.’ So he divided to them his livelihood. 13 And not many days after, the younger son gathered all together, journeyed to a far country, and there wasted his possessions with prodigal living. 14 But when he had spent all, there arose a severe famine in that land, and he began to be in want. 15 Then he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country, and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. 16 And he would gladly have filled his stomach with the pods that the swine ate, and no one gave him anything.
17 “But when he came to himself, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! 18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say to him, “Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you, 19 and I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Make me like one of your hired servants.” ’
20 “And he arose and came to his father. But when he was still a great way off, his father saw him and had compassion, and ran and fell on his neck and kissed him. 21 And the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and in your sight, and am no longer worthy to be called your son.’
22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Bring out the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet. 23 And bring the fatted calf here and kill it, and let us eat and be merry; 24 for this my son was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ And they began to be merry.
25 “Now his older son was in the field. And as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked what these things meant. 27 And he said to him, ‘Your brother has come, and because he has received him safe and sound, your father has killed the fatted calf.’
28 “But he was angry and would not go in. Therefore his father came out and pleaded with him. 29 So he answered and said to his father, ‘Lo, these many years I have been serving you; I never transgressed your commandment at any time; and yet you never gave me a young goat, that I might make merry with my friends. 30 But as soon as this son of yours came, who has devoured your livelihood with harlots, you killed the fatted calf for him.’
31 “And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that I have is yours. 32 It was right that we should make merry and be glad, for your brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found.’ ”
16 He also said to His disciples: “There was a certain rich man who had a steward, and an accusation was brought to him that this man was wasting his goods. 2 So he called him and said to him, ‘What is this I hear about you? Give an account of your stewardship, for you can no longer be steward.’
3 “Then the steward said within himself, ‘What shall I do? For my master is taking the stewardship away from me. I cannot dig; I am ashamed to beg. 4 I have resolved what to do, that when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses.’
5 “So he called every one of his master’s debtors to him, and said to the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’ 6 And he said, ‘A hundred measures of oil.’ So he said to him, ‘Take your bill, and sit down quickly and write fifty.’ 7 Then he said to another, ‘And how much do you owe?’ So he said, ‘A hundred measures of wheat.’ And he said to him, ‘Take your bill, and write eighty.’ 8 So the master commended the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light.
9 “And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when you fail, they may receive you into an everlasting home. 10 He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. 11 Therefore if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? 12 And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own?
13 “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”
14 Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, also heard all these things, and they derided Him. 15 And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.
16 “The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it. 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.
18 “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
19 “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’
27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’ ”Luke 15:8-16:31
Here, we have the Parable of the Lost Coin (15:8-15:10), the Parable of the Lost Son (15:11-15:32), the Parable of the Unjust Steward (16:1-13), and the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (16:19-31). The first two in this section pertain to repentance. The third one does pertain to money and stewardship. At this point, though, Seeley is two for thirty-five in her claim that money “is talked about more than anything else in the Bible, in the, in the, in the New Testament.” That is a 5.7% success rate. That’s pathetic.
The fourth parable in the above section does not discuss money.
PARABLE THIRTY-SEVEN: Unprofitable Servants
7 And which of you, having a servant plowing or tending sheep, will say to him when he has come in from the field, ‘Come at once and sit down to eat’? 8 But will he not rather say to him, ‘Prepare something for my supper, and gird yourself and serve me till I have eaten and drunk, and afterward you will eat and drink’? 9 Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I think not. 10 So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, ‘We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do.’ ”Luke 17:7-10
This parable shows that a servant is not to expect a specific reward for doing his duty. it does not pertain to money.
18 Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart, 2 saying: “There was in a certain city a judge who did not fear God nor regard man.3 Now there was a widow in that city; and she came to him, saying, ‘Get justice for me from my adversary.’ 4 And he would not for a while; but afterward he said within himself, ‘Though I do not fear God nor regard man, 5 yet because this widow troubles me I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.’ ”
6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said.7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”
9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other;for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”Luke 18:1-14
In this section we have the Parable of the Persistent Widow (18:1-8) and the Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector (18:9-14). The first one pertains to whether or not the Son of Man will find faith on the earth when He comes. The second one pertains to how those who exalt themselves will be humbled and vice versa. Needless to say, neither talks about money.
PARABLE FORTY: The Minas (Pounds)
11 Now as they heard these things, He spoke another parable, because He was near Jerusalem and because they thought the kingdom of God would appear immediately. 12 Therefore He said: “A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants, delivered to them ten minas, and said to them, ‘Do business till I come.’ 14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We will not have this man to reign over us.’
15 “And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, he then commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. 16 Then came the first, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned ten minas.’ 17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.’ 18 And the second came, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned five minas.’ 19 Likewise he said to him, ‘You also be over five cities.’
20 “Then another came, saying, ‘Master, here is your mina, which I have kept put away in a handkerchief. 21 For I feared you, because you are an austere man. You collect what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 And he said to him, ‘Out of your own mouth I will judge you, youwicked servant. You knew that I was an austere man, collecting what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow. 23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, that at my coming I might have collected it with interest?’
24 “And he said to those who stood by, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to him who has ten minas.’ 25 (But they said to him, ‘Master, he has ten minas.’) 26 ‘For I say to you, that to everyone who has will be given; and from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.27 But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.’ ”Luke 19:11-27
This parable addresses faithfulness, not money.
If you made it through this part of the article, congratulations. You have just discovered that Alex Seeley went 2 for 40 on her claim that money is talked about more than anything else in the Bible. That’s a 5% success rate. She obviously has no idea what she is talking about. While Jesus did talk about money outside of parables, to say that money is talked about more than anything else in the Bible (or even the New Testament) is absolutely dishonest. Moreover, it is also obvious that every verse in six in the New Testament (another one of Seeley’s bad stats) is not talking about money, finances and/or stewardship.
In light of the exhaustive review of the forty parables I showed to refute Seeley’s statement, Seeley’s “sermon” is already trash (and I’m not even including how I pointed out her butchering of 1 Kings 17:9) despite the fact her “sermon” has not even reached ten minutes. Nevertheless, I show only a few more things I wish to refute.
After ripping 2 Corinthians 9:10 out of context at 12:53, Seeley absolutely butchers Genesis 1:28-29 (she is reading the NIV) by stating the following (13:10-16:18):
You see, it all goes back to the first law of mention, um, in, in Genesis about how we’re supposed to live. God always gives us a direction right at the beginning of how we’re supposed to have dominion over our lives in in the area of our, of giving, so when Adam and Eve were, were, um, created, He gave them this instruction in Genesis chapter one verse twenty-eight. It says:
“God blessed them, and said to them, ‘Be fruitful and increase in number. Fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and over every living creature that moves on the ground.’ Then God said, ‘I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.'”
So here we have an instruction for two things. He says be fruitful and multiply. So He wants us to increase in number. So, every person that gets multiplied starts with the seed being deposited in a womb that then becomes another human. So everything that’s given to us begins with seed. The trees started as a seed. The, the seed in the food is now the seed that needs to now be sown to continue to multiply and increase so He says, “Be fruitful, multiply, increase in number.” For those of you who think God keeps things small, right here the law of first mention is that God does not keep anything small because He’s a limitless God. So He says, “Be fruitful, multiply, and increase.” He’s always into increase. And that’s not a prosperity doctrine; that is just as it is. There are 7 billion people on this earth and the people that have gone before us that have transferred into, uh, eternity are even more and it started with Adam and Eve. So we’ve done that we’ve been fruitful and we’ve multiplied, He wants increase, but then He says, ‘I need you to rule and have dominion and authority over everything.” But how many of us are not dominating the area of our finances? How many of us have money dominating our thinking, our worries, our concerns, and we think we’re never gonna get out of a hole. In fact, some of you have inherited a poverty mindset from your family. Some of you, the seeds that your family have sown, you’re still reaping a harvest of what they’ve sown into your life. But today, I declare and I prophesy over you that you get to draw a line in the sand and shift the future of your life in the area of finance. Because you don’t have to live that way. You don’t have to live that way because God gave us the tools of how to increase in our lives, and whether you are on your last dime, God says it’s still seed that can be sown and it will produce a harvest.
Seeley has absolutely twisted Genesis 1:28-29. Genesis is a historical narrative. It is a descriptive text, not a prescriptive text. Moreover, the law of first mention is absolutely foreign to Scripture. Genesis is not a text that tells us how to live; it is a text that tells about stuff that actually happened. For context, I’d like to show Genesis 1:1-2:3. This is a passage that tells about how God created the heavens and the earth. I show the NKJV:
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness wason the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.” 21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30 Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
2 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
Notice that the concept of finances is absolutely absent from the above passage. Seeley is engaging in really gross eisegesis here.
Before I move on, I want to comment on Seeley’s declaring and prophesying. Christians are not to decree and declare. Instead, Christians are to make their supplications (which are requests) known to God (see Philippians 4:4-7, Ephesians 6:16-18, Exodus 32:30-34:9, Psalm 17:1, Psalm 39:12, Psalm 54:2, Psalm 55:1, Psalm 61:1, Psalm 13, Psalm 15, Psalm 71, Daniel 9:1-20). When someone decrees or declares, the word “no” is not an option. Furthermore, when someone prophesies, that person is now in the area of prophet.
I have to ask a question; in light of what Seeley has spoken about Scripture (via either handling biblical texts or just talking about them like the “money” thing), is she a true prophet or a false prophet? First off, she should not even be preaching since God’s Word forbids women pastors. Moreover, keep in mind that in this sermon review, I have pointed out how she has utterly mangled both 1 Kings 17 and Genesis 1:28. Furthermore, when she stated that money is talked about more than anything else in the Bible/New Testament, I showed how only 2 of the 40 parables Jesus spoke talked about money. Clearly she is a false prophet. Moreover, she is absolutely blaspheming God’s name in this “sermon.”
By this point in the sermon, you have likely heard a lot of affirmation from the crowd in various forms. People are cheering. People are vocal. Like her husband Henry, I think it is safe to say that Alex Seeley has what is known as a bullpen. This is a form of manipulation. In a 12/5/2017 episode of the Christian program Fighting For the Faith (see the hyperlink), Pastor Chris Rosebrough (henceforth referred to as Rosebrough) played some audio from an episode of the Bad Christian podcast. In this interview, the hosts of the Bad Christian podcast interviewed a gentleman named Chris, a former super-involved volunteer at Elevation “Church”, a place pastored by cult-leading heretic Steven Furtick (quotes around the word “church” inserted by me). At the 26:43 mark of the episode (in a segment that begins at the 10:14 mark of the episode), Chris mentions the bullpen. Transitioning out of a discussion regarding standing up when Steven Furtick enters a room (yes you read that right), Chris begins talking about the bullpen. Here is my transcript of that episode includes what Chris said, what the podcast hosts said, and Rosebrough’s commentary. This information is rather revealing (bolding done by me):
Chris: That reminds me of one thing I definitely didn’t feel cool about at all at the beginning is one of the volunteer teams they were trying to get together was called the bullpen, where you were gonna go in the front row and you were supposed to be the most vocal of everyone. They said…
Rosebrough: Did you catch that? Yeah. Volunteers are supposed to go in the front row and they’re gonna be the most vocal. It’s called the bullpen!
Chris: if you’re a super like cheerer, hand raiser, like, your volunteer role was to be in the front row. Whether it was a live, you know, studio, or not…
Chris: whether he is on the screen or not, like, you need to be down there. And they, they tried to come like get me and a couple other, and I’m like, “Nah, that’s just not, I’m not gonna do that. That’s ok.” So I do remember that was probably one of the early things I was like, “Nah, I don’t feel comfortable about doing something like that.” But…
Host: That’s the same as implanted baptisms and things like that. So they’re trying to engineer situations that that show demonstrate things to the public, but it’s a little manipulative in the way that you’re you’re encouraging behavior that’s a little less then genuine from people like, you know what I mean, the people that are gonna wanna gravitate towards wanting to being in that bullpen…
Rosebrough: It’s totally fake. It’s staged. It’s manipulation.
Host: …toward the front, they’re gonna be rewarded for essentially fake behavior. Like, exaggerated and then how are you gonna stop that from just being fake and, you know it gets into all that stuff where, you’ve just, you’ve encouraged people to do something that’s almost dishonest at some point…
Both the podcast host, Rosebrough and perhaps even Chris agree that the bullpen is completely manipulative. Anytime you hear or watch a sermon with a lot of front-row cheerers, hand-raisers and enthusiastic folk who will just absolutely “ooh” and “ahh” everything the pastor says (even if what the pastor is spewing is unbiblical, narcissistic nonsense), you may be dealing with a bullpen the pastor has employed. This is not something a pastor should be employing. It is completely manipulative and dishonest.
In listening to Seeley’s sermon, has there been a noticeable amount of vocal people cheering for Seeley? I would say there has been, but what has Seeley said so far? While already being in flagrant rebellion to God’s Word by preaching, she has twisted two biblical texts, told a widespread lie about money in the Bible, and falsely prophesied. And yet, people are still vocal. People are cheering a lot. They are absolutely fawning over what Seeley is saying. Sadly, Seeley has said a whole lot of blasphemous nonsense.
I’m soberly reminded of the book 2 Thessalonians. Since the book is short, I show it all for context. Pay attention to what is bolded:
1 Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,
To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.
16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 17 comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work.
3 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may run swiftly and be glorified, just as it is with you, 2 and that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; for not all have faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who will establish you and guard you from the evil one. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord concerning you, both that you do and will do the things we command you.
5 Now may the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patience of Christ.
6 But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; 8 nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, 9 not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.
10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
13 But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good. 14 And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
16 Now may the Lord of peace Himself give you peace always in every way. The Lord be with you all.
17 The salutation of Paul with my own hand, which is a sign in every epistle; so I write.
18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
The delusion is strong at The Belonging Co. Are Alex and Henry Seeley a judgment on those who did not wish to believe the truth? This is something to think about.
At 30:10, Seeley begins telling a story of the “consistency” of the sowing from both Henry and herself. She tells of what has happened because of their sowing. She basically exalts herself and Henry. At 30:40, when talking about “this house” (referring to the location of The Belonging Co), Alex states the following (30:38-31:40):
This house is because we sowed seed to five people. We just started with me and Henry having an idea and it was a seed that took effort. Do you know us coming from Australia we took our life savings we took the equity in our home, it was six figures, and we brought it over here, and we went, “You know what God? We’re gonna sow this into this season.” And we would watch that bank balance just dwindle over the couple of years and we were like, ‘Oh my gosh, God, all of our life savings is being sown into answering the call of God.” We begin to sow in our lives, we would pay for everybody’s dinner. We would always be generous whenever there was opportunity. In fact, we sowed into Crosspoint when they were doing their building fund and we didn’t even go to their church. But God said, “Every opportunity you sow. You sow. You sow seeds. You continually sow seeds.” And you know what I’ve watched in seven years? I’ve watched God give back every single cent and then some in our lives.
Who’s getting all the glory in this story? That would Alex Seeley and the “seeds” she and Henry sowed. Why should I believe Alex is answering the call of God when she is in such flagrant rebellion to His Word? She’s also preaching herself. That’s not good (2 Corinthians 4). Finally, notice again how Alex claims direct revelation from God.
Since I didn’t addresses anything in this sermon in the twenty minute range, I show another quote in the thirty minute range. Seeley states the following at 35:33-36:23:
“According to this measure,” Luke 6:38, “give and it will be given to you, a good measure pressed down shaken together and running over will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” This is a news flash guys because God doesn’t decide how blessed you are. You do. God doesn’t decide. You see, grace is for everybody. Favor is for some people. Favor comes when we do what is right in the eyes of God. Grace is unmerited and it’s for everybody, but favor is conditional. And that’s why that hashtag #favoraintfair, sometimes it ain’t fair. But it can be fair if you’re willing to do what the Bible says.
Notice how she ripped Luke 6:38 out of context. Furthermore, how can God not decide how blessed I am when by default I am the one who is born dead in trespasses and sins?
Ephesians 2:1-10 explains:
2 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
The Bible is clear that people are born dead in trespasses and sins (2:1-3). God’s being rich in mercy makes one alive in Christ (2:4). Furthermore, it is by grace through faith that one is saved (2:5-9). It is not based on works (2:9).
If you do not believe what Ephesians 2:1-10 states, I would ask you please look at the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20:1-17. Have you ever told a lie? Have you ever stolen something, even if it was small? Have you ever used God’s name in vain? Jesus said that whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in the heart (Matthew 5:27-28). Jesus also said that if you ever get angry at someone, you’ve committed murder in the heart (Matthew 5:21-26). Just the mere thoughts of adultery and murder make you guilty of the very acts themselves.
Please understand that it only takes one murder to be a murderer, one lie to be a liar and so forth. David said in Psalm 51:5 that he was conceived in sin. Genesis 6:5 states that every intent of the thoughts of man’s heart is only evil continually. Clearly, man has a sin problem. Romans 3:23 states that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Man is in big trouble with God because of his sin. This is more amplified by the fact that perfection is the standard (Matthew 5:48).
Now, some people try to justify their sin by trying to balance it out with the good deeds that they have done. However, if you were to try that in a court of law, the judge would throw the book at you. A good judge would not accept a bribe. He would cast you off into jail. God likewise will not accept a bribe, for there is no partiality with Him (Deuteronomy 10:17; Ephesians 6:9). Revelation 21:1-8 states the following (NASB):
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among the people, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, 4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be anymourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.”
5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” 6 Then He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give water to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life, without cost. 7 The one who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. 8 But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
The Bible is clear that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. No adulterer, no murderer, no idolater, no unbeliever (among others) will inherit the kingdom of God (see also 1 Corinthians 6:9-10). Sin has a very serious consequence.
Thankfully, Jesus Christ came to solve the sin problem over 2000 years ago (Isaiah 53:1-12). You and I broke the law. Jesus paid the fine (Matthew 26:14-28:20). This means that the judge can do what’s legally right in dismissing your case. He can say, “This person has broken the law, but someone has paid his fine. He’s out of here.” This is good news.
There are two things a person must do. He must repent. This means to turn from his sin (Mark 1:16; Luke 24:36-49; 2 Timothy 2:19-26; Acts 17:30-31). He must also put his trust in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31, 17:30-31; Romans 4:1-25, 10:1-17; Galatians 3:1-14; John 6:26-29). These gifts of repentance and faith are granted by God (Ephesians 2:8-9; 2 Timothy 2:22-26). If you repent and put your trust in the Savior Jesus Christ, He will forgive you of your sins and grant you everlasting life (John 6:47). Oh may you know His mercy and grace today if you have never repented and put your trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. If you get anything out of this long-winded article, please know how you can be saved through Jesus Christ alone.
There is no Gospel in Seeley’s “sermon”; it is all law (with a bunch of out-of-context verses”) and no Gospel. It’s all imperatives, no indicatives. There’s no good news in this “sermon”; the “sermon” is spiritually bankrupt.
Sappy music begins playing at the 40:33 mark of this “sermon.” Sappy music at the end of a sermon is an emotional manipulation technique designed to give the false impression that God the Holy Spirit is descending upon the audience to get the audience members to make a decision of some sort. In February 2021, I reviewed a book called Changing Church by egregious hireling Galen Woodward. In it, I noted his tacit admission of what the sound engineer does at seeker-driven churches (a type of church that would categorize The Belonging Co). Here is a relevant excerpt:
The final thing I analyze in this chapter is the plethora of volunteer opportunities Woodward’s team created “to sustain a future attendance of a thousand people” (p. 152). These teams included but were not limited to (pp. 153-161):
– Teaching Team
– Creative Team
– Logistics Team
– Project Manager
– Service Producer
– Post-Service Process
– Worship Team
– Web Designer
– Social Networking Guru
– Camera Operator
– Sound Engineer
– Lighting Engineer
– Prayer Team Coordinator
– Prayer Team
– Guest Experience Coordinator
– Parking Lot Team
– I’m New Team
– Head Ushers
– Security Teams
Obviously, that is quite a number of positions. Furthermore, this is good “primary source” information to know about the x’s and o’s of these teams, for there may be (if not certainly are) these same types of teams at your local seeker-driven church. What I found interesting was the description for the Sound Engineer (p. 158):
These volunteers work to create the best possible environment for worship and teaching. This includes, but is not limited to, creating an audio mix that sets the mood that the pastor and worship leaders want to convey. They also support the audio needs of everyone involved in a service or production.
In some of my articles, I have noted how pastors use sappy music in sermons as an emotional manipulation technique to create the false impression that God the Holy Spirit is descending on the audience to get people to make decisions of one kind or another. Woodward’s information is important because it’s a tacit admission that pastors/worship leaders do indeed use sappy music to manipulate folk. Now, you might be saying, “But Clint, he said ‘audio mix’, not ‘music.’” This is true, but think about it. If you’ve been to a seeker-driven church that uses music toward the end of a service while the pastor is still speaking (and/or praying), has the music ever been anything but sappy? This is something to think about.
Obviously, Seeley is trying to set the mood here with the use of the sappy music. This is simply more fuel to her dumpster fire of a “sermon.”
At the 48:02 mark, Seeley shows her lack of discernment when she states the following:
Pastor Reinhard Bonnke, or evangelist Reinhard Bonnke, went to be with the LORD a few days ago and it rocked me to the core. That man was such an important man on this earth. Personally saw 75 million people come to know Christ. Personally.
Reinhard Bonnke was a heretic who both considered himself an apostle (there are no modern-day apostles) and denied that Jesus was God. The fact Seeley would speak glowingly of him is an abomination. Then again, it isn’t a shock. After all, in my post on Henry Seeley, I noted how he spoke well of narcissistic heretic Jentezen Franklin. Both Seeleys have zero discernment.
Henry Seeley took the mic to close the service at the 54:09 mark. Since this sermon review is on Alex, I’ll only say two things about Henry’s short six minute talk (give or take). First, he does not rebuke his wife for preaching such an abominable “sermon” (let alone rebuke her for preaching, thus giving more evidence to the fact he is not biblically qualified to be a pastor). Second, he puts himself in the role of “prophet” with these words (56:37-57:27):
I would love you to grab a hold of a hand of the person next to you right now because this is, I know that you may not know them. You might be sitting next to someone who seems like a stranger this morning but can I tell you that we are family? This is a family. We are a church family here and if this is your first time, you know what? Doesn’t mean you’re not part of the family. We welcome you this morning as part of God’s family. And what we’re getting to do this morning is we pray, we’re gonna pray and prophesy into the lives that are going to be changed. We get to prophesy into the atmosphere over that building and over that place cause it’s gonna be a place for encounter. A place of miracles. A place for salvations, so come on. Just take a moment. Let’s just in our own words begin to prophesy the things that we see, the things that we get to be part of. The miracle that we’re getting to be part of today in Jesus’ name.
How is this a place for salvations when the biblical Gospel isn’t preached? This was not Christian doctrine that was taught in this service. After all, Alex Seeley is in flagrant rebellion to God’s Word with her preaching a sermon. Moreover, Henry Seeley is a false prophet, for this place cannot be a place of salvations since the biblical Gospel is not preached here. By tacking Jesus’ name to the end of this blasphemous “sermon”, Henry Seeley has further blasphemed God. This “sermon” was an utterly blasphemous train wreck.
Before I conclude, it should be noted that being a false prophet is no light matter. No less than three texts will help in this discussion. The first is Deuteronomy 18:15-22 (NASB):
15 “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him. 16 This is according to all that you asked of the Lord your God in Horeb on the day of the assembly, saying, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, let me not see this great fire anymore, or I will die.’ 17 The Lord said to me, ‘They have spoken well. 18 I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like you, and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 It shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21 You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
Justin Peters did an incredible video in March 2020 showing how “20 of the top names in the charismatic prophetic movement” could not see COVID-19 coming. Apparently, neither did the Seeleys (but a discussion on their not seeing COVID-19 coming is for a different day).
Deuteronomy 13:1-5 is another text worth considering (NASB):
“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the Lord your God is testing you to find out if you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.4 You shall follow the Lord your God and fear Him; and you shall keep His commandments, listen to His voice, serve Him, and cling to Him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has counseled rebellion against the Lord your God who brought you from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, to seduce you from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from among you.
Consider how false prophets in the Old Testament were those who attempted to get people to go after other gods. Are the Seeleys not doing the same thing by trying to draw people to their Christ-less, cross-less, Gospel-less nonsense? This is something to think about.
The final text to consider in this matter is Jeremiah 23:1-40 (NKJV):
23 “Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!” says the Lord. 2 Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel against the shepherds who feed My people: “You have scattered My flock, driven them away, and not attended to them. Behold, I will attend to you for the evil of your doings,” says the Lord. 3 “But I will gather the remnant of My flock out of all countries where I have driven them, and bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. 4 I will set up shepherds over them who will feed them; and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, nor shall they be lacking,” says the Lord.
5 “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord,
“That I will raise to David a Branch of righteousness;
A King shall reign and prosper,
And execute judgment and righteousness in the earth.
6 In His days Judah will be saved,
And Israel will dwell safely;
Now this is His name by which He will be called:
THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7 “Therefore, behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord, “that they shall no longer say, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ 8 but, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up and led the descendants of the house of Israel from the north country and from all the countries where I had driven them.’ And they shall dwell in their own land.”
9 My heart within me is broken
Because of the prophets;
All my bones shake.
I am like a drunken man,
And like a man whom wine has overcome,
Because of the Lord,
And because of His holy words.
10 For the land is full of adulterers;
For because of a curse the land mourns.
The pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up.
Their course of life is evil,
And their might is not right.
11 “For both prophet and priest are profane;
Yes, in My house I have found their wickedness,” says the Lord.
12 “Therefore their way shall be to them
Like slippery ways;
In the darkness they shall be driven on
And fall in them;
For I will bring disaster on them,
The year of their punishment,” says the Lord.
13 “And I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria:
They prophesied by Baal
And caused My people Israel to err.
14 Also I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem:
They commit adultery and walk in lies;
They also strengthen the hands of evildoers,
So that no one turns back from his wickedness.
All of them are like Sodom to Me,
And her inhabitants like Gomorrah.
15 “Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets:
‘Behold, I will feed them with wormwood,
And make them drink the water of gall;
For from the prophets of Jerusalem
Profaneness has gone out into all the land.’ ”
16 Thus says the Lord of hosts:
“Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you.
They make you worthless;
They speak a vision of their own heart,
Not from the mouth of the Lord.
17 They continually say to those who despise Me,
‘The Lord has said, “You shall have peace” ’;
And to everyone who walks according to the dictates of his own heart, they say,
‘No evil shall come upon you.’ ”
18 For who has stood in the counsel of the Lord,
And has perceived and heard His word?
Who has marked His word and heard it?
19 Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth in fury—
A violent whirlwind!
It will fall violently on the head of the wicked.
20 The anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart.
In the latter days you will understand it perfectly.
21 “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran.
I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in My counsel,
And had caused My people to hear My words,
Then they would have turned them from their evil way
And from the evil of their doings.
23 “Am I a God near at hand,” says the Lord,
“And not a God afar off?
24 Can anyone hide himself in secret places,
So I shall not see him?” says the Lord;
“Do I not fill heaven and earth?” says the Lord.
25 “I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in My name, saying, ‘I have dreamed, I have dreamed!’ 26 How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Indeed they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart, 27 who try to make My people forget My name by their dreams which everyone tells his neighbor, as their fathers forgot My name for Baal.
28 “The prophet who has a dream, let him tell a dream;
And he who has My word, let him speak My word faithfully.
What is the chaff to the wheat?” says the Lord.
29 “Is not My word like a fire?” says the Lord,
“And like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?
30 “Therefore behold, I am against the prophets,” says the Lord, “who steal My words every one from his neighbor. 31 Behold, I am against the prophets,” says the Lord, “who use their tongues and say, ‘He says.’ 32 Behold, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,” says the Lord, “and tell them, and cause My people to err by their lies and by their recklessness. Yet I did not send them or command them; therefore they shall not profit this people at all,” says the Lord.
33 “So when these people or the prophet or the priest ask you, saying, ‘What is the oracle of the Lord?’ you shall then say to them, ‘What oracle?’ I will even forsake you,” says the Lord. 34 “And as for the prophet and the priest and the people who say, ‘The oracle of the Lord!’ I will even punish that man and his house. 35 Thus every one of you shall say to his neighbor, and every one to his brother, ‘What has the Lord answered?’ and, ‘What has the Lord spoken?’ 36 And the oracle of the Lord you shall mention no more. For every man’s word will be his oracle, for you have perverted the words of the living God, the Lord of hosts, our God. 37 Thus you shall say to the prophet, ‘What has the Lord answered you?’ and, ‘What has the Lord spoken?’ 38 But since you say, ‘The oracle of the Lord!’ therefore thus says the Lord: ‘Because you say this word, “The oracle of the Lord!” and I have sent to you, saying, “Do not say, ‘The oracle of the Lord!’ ” 39 therefore behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you and forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and will cast you out of My presence. 40 And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.’ ”
Despite their claims to the contrary, the Seeleys do not get direct revelation from God. Sadly, they still prophesy. Moreover, they prophesy falsely. Sadly, with their lies and utter recklessness, they are causing the people at The Belonging Co to err. Pray for the Seeleys. Pray for those that sit under their teaching.
Contrary to what Henry Seeley says, there is no way Alex Seeley gets revelation from heaven. There are reasons for this:
- She preaches sermons. God’s Word forbids women pastors.
- She twists God’s Word.
- She preaches all law and no Gospel.
- She is a false prophet.
- She claims direct revelation from God, thus denying Sola Scriptura.
- She endorsed heretic Reinhard Bonnke.
- She tells lies about the Bible.
If you’re attending The Belonging Co, run, for they do not teach what is in accordance with sound doctrine. They also do not refute what contradicts sound doctrine. Mark and avoid The Belonging Co (Romans 16:17). Pray for those sitting under their heretical teachings. Pray for the Seeleys as well.